In this series of periodic episodes in which hosts reluctantly discuss current events, Volts talks with Adrian Deveny, a former Senate aide who was in the trenches for the IRA's creation, about the House GOP's "Big Beautiful Bill."

In its current form, it amounts to wholesale destruction of the last four years of climate policy. The episode includes the pondering of the bill's chances of becoming less catastrophic in the Senate amid the lack of meaningful pushback from the industries being kneecapped and the predictable folding of "moderate" Republican opposition.